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Newbie in need of assistance

Post by Luftwaffe » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:48 am

I'm trying to get into WWII airsoft and I need a little help with uniform specifications. I'm going for the German loadout, but I have absolutely nothing WWII German (besides an AGM STG-44 and Maruzen P-38). For my current loadout I am using a Surplus Bulgarian helmet with some makeshift camo netting, an East German Wool tunic, a pair of Walmart pants that are of a similar color to the jacket and have a design similar to German trousers, a pair of surplus Czech Jackboots, and some leather belts that I use as equiptment straps and such. I also have a pair of STG-44 Mag pouches coming in the mail within the next few days, but I've been looking at the uniform requirements and I see quite a bit that I don't have. Any recommendations on what do do with my current equiptment and any future equiptment to buy? If any possible, I'd like to stick with the East German Wool tunic if at all possible untill I outgrow it and then buy a full reproduction uniform, It would be a little expensive to go out and buy one and then outgrow it in a year, whereas the East German Tunics are only $15-$20. Thanks for any responses!
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Re: Newbie in need of assistance

Post by H4nz » Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:21 pm

I recommend posting on the ww2 airsoft forums as well. Just Google ww2 airsoft and it should come up. Also Google ww2 German uniform while you're at it. Tunic, pants, boots, stg44 mag rig, belt with buckle, patrol cap.
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Re: Newbie in need of assistance

Post by Luftwaffe » Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:55 am

Quick question, I'm looking at Y-straps online and I'm seeing things called "belt loops for Y-straps", is that something that I would have to buy separately and attach to the Y-Straps in order for them to attach to my belt? (example; http://www.ebay.com/itm/German-Reproduc ... 19c89fc80b) The Y-Straps I'm looking to buy are here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-GERMAN-LEAT ... 4aaf016544)

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Re: Newbie in need of assistance

Post by Shady-Cadence » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:27 am

You do not need the loops to use the Y straps unless you have no ammunition pouches for the front, as these are what the front of the straps attach to. The East German tunic isn't great, but if you're still growing, a repro doesn't make sense. For the time being, get a reproduction zeltbahn, (german tent section) they can be worn in a poncho style, will cover the EG tunic and accommodate your growing frame until you can get a more accurate uniform.

As far as a helmet, get a fabric cover for it if you can't get a real German pot. I say this for good reason: The Stahlhelm of WW2 Germany is an iconic item, recognizable by virtually everyone regardless of historical knowledge. As such, anyone in the re-enacting or historical airsoft hobbies will spot a bogus/repro/Spanish helmet from across the field. When the time comes, get a real one. Watch e-bay and the sales sections of the WW2 airsoft board, you can usually find them for reasonable prices. If you are having a tough time justifying the purchase of an actual German helmet, remember that it is a piece of history, and as such WILL RETAIN IT'S VALUE! Think of it as a commodity you can use.

The local WW2 group is http://www.ostfrontairsoft.com, the national board is http://ww2aa.proboards.com/index. Read, read, read! :wink:
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Re: Newbie in need of assistance

Post by Luftwaffe » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:43 pm

I'll research more on the Zeltbahns and I think for now I'll get a M43 field hat, but I'll keep an eye out for a refurbished or original helmet. Also does anyone happen to have a Zeltbahn that they are willing to sell me or know someone or somewhere that is selling a reasonably priced one? The ones I've seen in my brief searches on ebay go for about $75, at this price I could buy a reproduction uniform for that or a cheaper price.
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Re: Newbie in need of assistance

Post by Shady-Cadence » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:55 pm

Luftwaffe- I forgot to mention to you that period airsoft in general is expensive, (I also do Vietnam) WW2 is quite expensive, with German kit probably topping the list. Another thing to consider when going Kraut is what unit? Doing regular Heer (Army) or the dreaded SS, as there are many differences in the uniforms? Hit the websites I mentioned and do some reading, it's free. DON'T buy something because it seems like a deal, there is a ton of absolute crap out there. Both of those forums have sales sections in them, keep an eye on them.
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Re: Newbie in need of assistance

Post by Luftwaffe » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:58 pm

I personally like the look of some of the SS uniforms, but I dislike the negative aurora surrounding them so I'll probably stick with Heer. I also did notice that German loadouts would cost the most, it seems the uniforms themselves are gennerally not much more expensive than other WWII era uniforms, its the equiptment that goes along is what adds up, and my personality is just wired so that I make sure none of the money I spend goes to waste. I have some MP-44 pouches coming in the mail soon and I will evaluate them and if I find everything "honkey dorey" I'll probably order more supplies from the seller such as a Zeltbahn (any recommendations on what camo would be nice) Also, regarding the boots that I use (Czech 19(50's?) Winter Jackboots) they (in my opinion) look close to what kind of boots some Russians were issued in WWII, would these be an acceptable alternative to German Jackboots? I hope to someday play with these folks in the 3rd Panzergrenadiers and appreciate all of the help you all are giving me. My mom always told me "Collin, whatever you do, don't become an actor when you grow up." but she never said anything about REENacting! :wink:
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Re: Newbie in need of assistance

Post by Shady-Cadence » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:52 pm

For Heer get splinter pattern camo. Here's a couple shots of me in my reversible winter set:
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Here's a shot of some Ostfront guys and me in my winter MG loadout for the filming of the movie Memorial Day, in which I have a very brief death. Yes, that's an airsoft MG, and the movie producers LOVED it!
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Re: Newbie in need of assistance

Post by Luftwaffe » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:05 am

I'm liking it, and dang! did you custom build that MG-34 or was it one of those ones by like Ultima or something? Also, I have A FleetFarm near where I live and last time I was there I saw some Austrian Surplus M31 Mess Tins, would I be able to get one of those and save like 3 dollars or should I get the German reproductions?
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Re: Newbie in need of assistance

Post by Shady-Cadence » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:43 am

The MG is made by Viva arms, and was discontinued after about 100 guns. As far as the mess tin goes, the Austrian version has a noticeably taller lid, and will stand out once you see the difference. Of all the Germans in our group, I believe there are four thing in the kit for which everyone uses actual German equipment: The helmet, the mess tin, the canteen and the gas mask canister. To the best of our knowledge, there are no accurate reproductions of these in existence as manufacturing them would make the cost on par with genuine articles. Mess tins and canteens can be had for $20-50, canisters for about $50-75, helmets around $100 and up. Watch e-bay, deals CAN be had.
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Re: Newbie in need of assistance

Post by Luftwaffe » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:02 pm

Very cool. And thanks, I'll look around on E-bay and the WW2AA forums for some of that stuff. One reason for me being a little iffy on the prices with some things was I've been looking to buy a computer, but then it hit me. Computers get cheaper every year, Vintage military gear however does not, so I'll look around over the course of this winter and next summer for a helmet, mess tin, gas mask container, and a Zeltbahn. Also there is a reproduction M-43 field cap that I saw on E-bay from the same seller that I have bought MP-44 pouches from, would you suggest I buy it or should I save that money for investing in a helmet? I have not received the pouches yet however to check the quality and durability of them (last time I checked it was en route to JFKA) so I don't know if they are accurate reproductions or not. (Example of M-43 Cap http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-GERMAN-WH- ... 336ff4df7a also maybe even look around at the rest of his stuff, his prices (with shipping) are about $10 cheaper than most other sellers sell their reproduction WWII era stuff) Thanks for your help, I wouldn't have noticed any of those small things such as the height difference on those Mess tins without your advice.
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