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German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by DaveTheAirsoftGuy » Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:59 pm

German Luftwaffe Uniform Set
Luftwaffe Fliegerbluse
Luftwaffe Field-blue trousers
Luftwaffe EM Breast eagle
Luftwaffe EM Shoulder Boards (any Waffenfarbe)
Luftwaffe EM Collar Tabs (any Waffenfarbe)
cost is 230

im planning on buy this from http://atthefront.com/ any one have good things to say about that website? and is it a good price for the gear? thanks!
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by Erik » Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:24 pm

Moved to correct forum.

While I have no personal experience with them, At The Front comes highly recommended by many re-enactors I know.
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by Shady-Cadence » Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:03 pm

At The Front is indeed a highly recommended dealer of period gear, and that seems like a good price.

Just to be sure, you know Luftwaffe means Air Force, right? (do you have a Messerschmitt or Stuka somewhere? :wink: )
All you would need would be a period weapon, field gear and boots, and you're in the fight.
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by DaveTheAirsoftGuy » Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:37 am

no i got a Horten Ho 229 in the garage tho ;)
o and btw thanks erik! sorry
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by Rekkon » Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:11 am

Pffft, my Ta-183 laughs at your silly flying wing. :)

My impression has a fair number of items from ATF, and I have been satisfied with all of them. Several members of my unit are not happy with their footwear however. I cannot comment first hand since I am still using some Red Wing workboots. I am not as familiar with prices for Luftwaffe gear, but that is cheaper than what I paid for just my Lost Battalions tunic. If you are thinking about joining our unit, it might be better to get an early/late war Germany army uniform rather than Luftwaffe. It is entirely possibly the higher ups would let you join with a Luftwaffe impression, but it would just be wise to check with them beforehand. Cost is the same for a Heer uniform, and whichever way you go, I would highly recommend picking up a service cap (or helmet). We generally want all players to have headgear of some sort. If you end up joining, Otto is selling an M43 service cap with the 3rd Panzergrenadier kruez already sewn on to members.

Udo should chime in shortly with more info, I believe he already PMed you when you asked about borrowing a period weapon for the September game.
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Post by DaveTheAirsoftGuy » Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:17 pm

ya i talked 2 him and i didnt pick up that the german side was more towards the army so im looking for the heer gear tonight.
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Post by Sgt Chase » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:04 pm

At The Front is one that is reccommended the most because of the quality of service and the design of the uniforms matching those from WWII. Another one that I have delt with is Hessin Antique. I have had no problem with either so far. I just need to finish off my Wiermacht Uniform.
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by unionman » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:01 pm

When it comes to wool German uniforms, Hessian and ATF are selling the same stuff manufactured by Sturm. It's good middle of the road gear and reasonably priced.

Still, I love my LB tunic. The Sturm coats really should be tailored as they can be a bit sack-like...still the pattern isn't as bad as many claim and I think they work particularly well for late war M43s (some of which started to get a bit longer and less tailored as the war progressed).

Uniforms are pretty easy to come by, finding quality field gear is what can be challenging with a German impression.

Again, most of the information is on our website as far as gear requirements. I recommend you use those resources.

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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by DaveTheAirsoftGuy » Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:18 pm

German Early War Uniform Set, circa 1940-42

German M36 or M40 Tunic
German M37 trousers
EM Breast or sleeve eagle
EM Shoulder Boards (any style or Waffenfarbe)
EM Collar Tabs (SS runes or any Heer Litzen; add $5 for special SS collar tabs such as Totenkopf and the foreign volunteers
M34 Overseas Cap, no insignia: + $20.00
230.00
so 250.00

wut about that acceptable?
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by unionman » Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:56 pm

Yep. That will do. Get the M40 jacket with generic collar litzen, a mid war bevo eagle, and shoulder boards with white piping.
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by DaveTheAirsoftGuy » Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:11 pm

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.p ... ts_id=3027

possible weapon D-boys kar 98 with shells. for 98 bucks or something. any one got experince with it? recomend it or could recomend a better one (within the 200-300 range perferably)
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by Shady-Cadence » Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:26 pm

Did you read the reviews on that site? Essentially it's cool, as long as you don't have to shoot anyone with it, much less actually hit them. NOT a skirmishable weapon.
Your best bet for a cheap German gun is an AGM MP40. I think VORT3X can get them for $120, check his sales sticky. Irish might be able to help you out, too.
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by unionman » Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:11 am

The dboys is a loser. The MP40 is a good starter weapon...then you can look at a custom k98 down the road.
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Post by Rekkon » Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:55 am

There are a few things you can do to the D-boys Mauser to bring its performance closer to reasonable, but by the time you go through the effort and buy enough shells to hold you for a while, you are better off (and much more field effective) getting an AGM MP40. They only make 55 round magazines for it, which is perfectly fine for our group, but you are going to want spares. Most of us run with 7 magazines, which means you will want a set of MP40 magazine pouches at some point since the bloody things are so inconveniently long.
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by DaveTheAirsoftGuy » Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:52 pm

lol ok thanks every 1
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by DaveTheAirsoftGuy » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:05 pm

ok so im probly gona buy a agm, but now to side arms http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.p ... ts_id=3151
the WE full metal luger, now do the reinacters in here have a prefferance on long med or short? good gun? bad gun? thanks!
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Post by Shady-Cadence » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:25 pm

Don't bother with a sidearm yet, considering most German soldats didn't carry one. Put your money toward field gear instead. I defer to my superiors, please see next post.
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by Rekkon » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:36 pm

Dave is picking up a service cap with his uniform, so he probably does not need to worry about a helmet just yet. For field gear, I would suggest going in the order:

MP40 Magazine Pouches (use: obvious)
Enlisted Man's Belt (to put the MP40 pouches on)
Y-straps (to hold up belt and mag pouches)
Footwear (Low boot or jackboots)
Helmet
Breadbag
Canteen
Messkit
Gas Mask Canister (cheaper without a mask, plus then you can stash other stuff in there)

There is no big hurry to get all of this stuff in one go. If you have a weapon and a uniform, you are set for your first skirmish or two. You can gradually start acquiring the field gear after that.

Several members have the WE Lugers. I myself have a Maruzen Walther P38. I would agree with Shady and say give the sidearm a rather low priority. Our group does not want run of the mill riflemen opening displaying a pistol. That is for weapons crew and higher ups. Those of us with Mauser tend to hide a sidearm on our person to use when people get too close. On the Luger, I like the look of the shortest barrel myself, the 4" I think, but in the department I think it is whatever floats your boat. I also won a Colt 1911 in a raffle, so I suppose I could claim to have taken it off a dead Yankee.
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by unionman » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:48 pm

Our basic equipment requirements are listed here:

http://www.ostfrontairsoft.com/3rdequipment.shtml

Rekkon has nailed it once again. One difference from ww2 versus modern airsoft (in the MOA) is that we try and keep the pistol packing to a minimum. We allow sergeants and above to carry holstered pistols (I'm a sergeant and don't event carry one) and high FPS springer users to carry a concealed pistol so they have a fighting chance under their 100 ft minimum engagement distance.

Again, we're a bit more organized/uniformed than modern. Shady, one of our recent converts, loves ww2 stuff for this very reason. Some probably wouldn't like it as it's a bit more collective oriented.
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Post by DaveTheAirsoftGuy » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:55 pm

ya rekkon i plan to do just what you said, buy the basic, and take the pointers from you guys on what to buy next, slowly adding to make a nice little set up i think im still gona buy the luger, just cause ive always wanted 1
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Post by unionman » Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:53 pm

The lugers are super fun. I've seen a couple of them now and one is definitely on my short list :)
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Post by Shady-Cadence » Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:03 pm

I'm personally in love with my "new"(they aren't made anymore) Western Arms Beretta Md1934. Perfect little pocket gun.
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Post by unionman » Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:33 pm

I really had no idea that was a period gun until I Googled the model. Is it GBB?
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Post by Shady-Cadence » Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:52 pm

Yes it is. Side of the slide reads as follows:
P. BERETTA-CAL.9 SCURT-Md1934-BREVET
GARDONE V.T-1941

I'm trading a guy a USP compact for it.
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by Dark_zero_x » Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:10 pm

When I owned the gun, I did alot of reserch on it. it was used by the Italian army up untill 1945 as a replacemet for the Glisenti m1910, it never fully replaced the m1910 but was a very popular gun for the allies troops to pick up. two verions were produced only differing in the round it fired the 9mm short (9x17) and that was the most produced version of the gun. in 1935~41 after reports that the round was not powerful they rechambered it for the 7.65x17SR (browning), this was not very common and is very rare today. I belive that the airsoft pistol that I traded to shady is the 7.65mm type, the 9mm scurt markings were never on the guns and the 1941 gives a strong inclantion that it is the 2nd model.
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by unionman » Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:08 pm

Nice. Can you still pick those bad boys up?
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Post by Shady-Cadence » Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:37 pm

As far as I know, they are out of production, and have been for some time. I hope it never breaks . . . :roll: I have, however, seen small Colt pistols with a date on the slide of 190?, but they were springers. :|
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Post by Sgt Chase » Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:11 pm

I will make a note on the DBoyz Kar 98K here. I picked up one to see how it felt and just out of curiousity. The gun would be skirmishable if 1. Replaced the double size barrel with a M-16 tightbore and 2. Kept track of the shells. For a stanard person on the field. Not a good choice for the run of the mill. But with the modifications I would say skirmishable for Snipers only.
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Post by Guges Mk3 » Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:32 pm

UM...you want me to look for a M1934 UM?

Edit: Just foud a couple in HK already...not pursing it further though unless you want it. Parts are readily available too.
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Post by Shady-Cadence » Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:58 am

How much?
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Post by Rekkon » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:20 am

Aye, do tell. The 3rd Panzergrenadiers were stationed in Italy for a time after all.
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Post by GU3pzg » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:15 am

I too would be interested in one of the Berettas now that I have 2 sniper rifles...

As stated above, the WE Luger 4" is quite the nifty sidearm. Once I paired it with my custom K98, I have not touched my MP40 at a single event. I was considering getting a 6" or 8" model as I am our unit's PAK gunner, but the 4" version is the right size for all around use. It shoots pretty consistently around 315-320 fps.

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I've used my Jackboots for 6 events now and one of the heels is about to break off. Unionman has already had such a failure. That said, for the coolest looking footwear, the Jackboots are definitely the way to go. If I can't get mine fixed, I'm going to find a better pair. I think the low boots and gaiters are silly looking. Jackboots can also be used for Soviet impressions as well if you want to go the flip-flopper route like Unionman has... YOU FREAKING DESERTER! :P
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Post by Guges Mk3 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:18 pm

Ill start inquirng about prices...remember these are WA's...they will not be priced like a WE...
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by unionman » Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:24 pm

I'm be interested in hearing prices for the 1934s.

Ditto on the ATF jackboots. Over lunch today we went to a cobbler and turned our boots over to be resoled. For $200 they are a complete rip-off. For $220 you can get top notch reproductions that will last years.
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Post by Shady-Cadence » Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:14 pm

Guges Mk3 wrote:Ill start inquirng about prices...remember these are WA's...they will not be priced like a WE...
NO probem! We will pay for quality. Since a skirmishable airsoft k98 goes for around 3x the price of a real-steel, you'll have a hard time scaring us!
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Post by Guges Mk3 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:37 pm

Then ytou should look at Tanaka Lugers...the 8" Artillery Model is very nice and is a true Artillery piece.
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Post by DaveTheAirsoftGuy » Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:31 pm

hey udo, ive been running the numbers and i dont know if ill be able to scrape up the money for the uniform, is there anyway i can make a civilian type costum and wear it? like a pair of pants with a high pair of socks with pants tucked into them, with a button up shirt and a old hat? would that work?
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Post by Rekkon » Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:02 pm

We allow people to wear 40s looking civilian clothing and participate as partisans. The guidelines for such are on our site here.
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Post by unionman » Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:13 am

Once again, Rekkon has beat me to the punch. Yes, you're welcome to arrive in a partisan outfit. In fact, we sort of recommend that for a first event so that no big committment is made before seeing if you like ww2 airsoft or not.
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by DaveTheAirsoftGuy » Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:41 am

lol ok i can do that then
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by Guges Mk3 » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:43 am

Here are the numbers for the 5 WWII GBB's:

Browning HP-----------M1935 $206(USD)
P-38--------$169(USD)BK, $181(USD) SV or $184(USD) Metal Black.-----All gas blow back
Luger-------$232(USD) 4inch with special wood grip version, $219(USD) 6inch, $228(USD) 8inch---------All TANAKA
PPK---------$115(USD)BK or $126(USD) SV.
Beretta M1934--------Carbon------$178(USD)
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by Guges Mk3 » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:43 am

Dang double post.
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by Chadwick » Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:08 pm

how about the 1896 "broomhandle" pistol?
So, as Woodstock rocked on and the boomers got all wild on their weed, the M16 continued to be, and continues to be, the military's weapon of choice - for some weird, unexplainable reason

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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by Guges Mk3 » Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:06 pm

No one asked about the Mauser 1898 for WWII.
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by unionman » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:49 am

The Gewehr 98 was used by Volksturm, home front and other irregular units during the war. I actually just gave an old beater 98 to Garrick hoping he can convert it into a springer. That would be a cool gun to have.
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by Guges Mk3 » Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:34 pm

Let me see what I can find.

Is there any interest in any of these GBB's right now...I have orders coming up and I can play shipping games with them.
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by Shady-Cadence » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:28 am

I could go for the metal P-38.
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Re: German Luftwaffe uniform

Post by Guges Mk3 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:23 am

Any spare mags?
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