Guns and gear for WWII airsoft re-enacting

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Guns and gear for WWII airsoft re-enacting

Post by Chadwick » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:59 pm

Lets start with the current production firearms
SMGS

M1A1 thompson SMG (TM makes a great one)
M3 grease gun (hudson)
MP40(top, I believe marusin may be coming out w/ a 8 mm ver.)

rifles
K98k (tanaka, marushin)
M1 Garand(marushin)
M1 carbine(marushin)
M2 carbine (to be released)
arisaka
M1903
lee enfield

Lmg/MG's
MP44(shoi)
MG42 (shoi)
MG34 (shoi)
BAR(jac, inokatsu has one on the way)

shotguns-
M1897 trench gun

sidearms
M1911A1( tokyo marui makes the best)
other M1911 models- ksc, kwc ect
luger
p38
ppk
mauser broom handle c96
ect.

Keep in mind that most soldiers did not carry a sidearm


Ak47 to MP44 conversion kit found here, among other british weapons
http://www.shootnscoot.co.uk/

American
Gear- M43 pants and jacket._I have one for sale.
M41 field jacket
M1 helmet
WWII belt, WWII mag carry system- pouches/bandolier
leggings
canteen- You MUST have a canteen to keep hydrated

german

M36 or M40 Tunic
M43 or M37 Trouser
SS Service Shirt

SS EM Sleeve eagle
SS EM Collar Tabs, any unit
SS EM Shoulder boards, any Waffenfarbe

M39 Jackboots
German M42 Steel Helmet with decals, shell size 64 or 66, rebuilt
SS Type-I or Type-II Smock, Oak A
SS Type II Helmet cover
Tunic Belt Hooks, 1 set
M43 Field Cap
EM Leather
Belt Buckle, SS
Bayonet Frog, 98k (any style)
K98 ammunition pouches, reproduction (1 pair, black or brown)
Y-Strap, Leather Sold Out
Standard Entrenching Tool with Carrier
SS Camouflage Zeltbahn, Oak A, no buttons
Reproduction Tornister Straps, leather (3)
Wehrmacht Blanket
Mess Tin Sold Out , postwar with repro strap

SS Complete Impression Options:
Upgrade to NCO rank (with collar Tresse, not sewn on): Delete Helmet:
Substitute Folding E-tool (Dutch) & reproduction carrier:
Substitute Folding E-tool (Original) & reproduction carrier:
Zeltbahn w/ buttons:
Plane Tree Pattern Smock:
M42 Lowboots
M35 Steel Helmet
M40 Steel Helmet
Size 68 Helmet
BW mess tin:

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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:54 am

I like this review of the Marushin MP40 on Arnies:
Conclusion:


I Wish this gun could be better.
Dont buy this gun...
Here's the video of it in action

http://modelguns.co.uk/Videos/ModelGunsMP40d.wmv
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Post by otherrandomhero » Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:39 am

Why is it ejecting shells? It looks more like the empty shell ejecting guns from Model Guns UK.

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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:42 am

It could be the guy who reviewed it messed up. Here's where I got the review from:

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/reviewpo ... roduct/244
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Post by MajWinters636 » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:39 am

holy crap guys have i found the gun for you german reenactors!!!!

its 220 with battery and charger full metal.

i dont know what the quality is but here is the link

http://www.airsoftforce.com/product_inf ... cts_id=662
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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:23 am

As long as it's better then TOP's MP40 it'll be sweet.
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Post by Red Leader » Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:23 pm

hey guys, apperantly agm has made a mp-40 aeg. not only that, but its 100 bucks on wgc. this could help us, cuz now we have the german equivalent to the thompson, and for a really good price.
http://www.wgcshop.com/
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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:29 pm

You can also get it at Georgia Airsoft. You can get extra mags off of ebay from Hong Kong and the other companies say that they're getting extra mags soon. I believe WGC already has 30 rnd standards.
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Post by Red Leader » Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:57 pm

u can add the mosin nagit to the list now. it released not to long ago on redwolf. it is expensive, but for those who want to impersonate our russki' friends, all u need is a brown robe, a furry hat, and a 900 dollor weapon.
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Post by DFSM » Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:34 pm

Red Leader wrote:all u need is a brown robe, a furry hat, and a 900 dollor weapon.
A 900 dollar, fixed hop-up, 270 FPS bolt action. Sounds real skirmishable.
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Post by Red Leader » Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:43 pm

DFSM wrote:
Red Leader wrote:all u need is a brown robe, a furry hat, and a 900 dollor weapon.
A 900 dollar, fixed hop-up, 270 FPS bolt action. Sounds real skirmishable.
hey, i'd pay 900 to runaround with just a robe on.... on second thought, no i wouldn't.
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Post by DFSM » Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:34 am

WGC has the VFC BAR for pre-order for 1500 bucks.

http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper.ph ... -BARCNCLTD
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Post by Chadwick » Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:39 pm

i might just have to sell all my stuff to buy that.
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Post by DFSM » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:04 pm

Well, Inokatsu is making one too. So if you can't get money in time to get the VFC, holding out for the Inokatsu is an option too.
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Post by Chadwick » Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:52 pm

actualy, I believe that 900 is just a reservation price...
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Post by Red Leader » Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:57 am

tanaka has release a gbb luger P08. i gotta get me one of these.
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Post by Chadwick » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:07 pm

Red Leader wrote:tanaka has release a gbb luger P08. i gotta get me one of these.
thats been out for a whole, at least a few years or so I think.
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Post by Chang2012 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:21 am

where do u get a lee enfield? also does a Dboys kar98 work?
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Post by Chadwick » Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:19 am

build it from scratch. one of the WW2AA guys made a nice one.
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Post by Yoroiden » Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:02 pm

http://www.shootnscoot.co.uk makes custom Lee Enfields with APS internals. Will probably be around $1000 after shipping from the UK.
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Post by Chadwick » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:32 am

a guy is selling compleeted ones for 275$ on ww2airsoft.com sales forum. (NOT wwiiguns.com, do not buy from him)
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Post by GU3pzg » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:00 pm

Chang2012 wrote:where do u get a lee enfield? also does a Dboys kar98 work?
Unionman would be a better voice than me on the Dboys K98, but I saw his prior to him shipping it off to his brother in-law.

The two critical flaws of this gun as far as skirmishing are as follows:

Single BB cartridges. You put a BB in a mock 8mm shell casing, after firing you cycle the bolt and the shell is ejected and loads the next one in the clip (the gun comes with 5 cartridges with more available for order from various vendors). This means that if you have 10 cartridges, after you fire 10 shots (and pick up the ejected casings) you have to reload them by hand before you can get back into the fight. Now if the gun was a 400+fps monster with a real accurate tight-bore barrel, it wouldn't be bad for a squad marksman. But that leads us to the second flaw...

Short internal barrel. And I mean really short, something like 2"-6". This really hampers accuracy. While this gun might be fine as a backyard plinker. You're going to have troubles using it in a skirmish unless you have a couple of SMG Gunners running in your squad who can cover you while you reload your cartridges.

The AGM-MP40 is a much better beginners gun for a German WW2 airsofter. It shoots 330-350 fps and is reasonably accurate out of the box. It will also end up costing less (not including additional mags) than the dboys. And yes it does ruin the historical aspect a bit to have your entire German team running around with MP40s, but our squad started that way and is now upgrading to custom mauser springers (which are sadly not available to the general public). At our event in August, we could potentially have 8 guys in our squad running with K98s!

I know there are some folks out there using them as base guns to modify into a proper springer rifle, but the time, materials and effort involved in that upgrade make buying a custom mauser springer or a Gas Powered Tanaka a much better proposition.

Just my $.02, but there's a reason why I have yet to see one of these Dboys at a skirmish.
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Post by Chaser » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:54 pm

If you are serious about doing an accurate impression, At The Front is not the place to go for German. Regrettably (as I love their service and even their rants, although occasionally irritating), their quality in production has slipped dramatically within the last 3-4 years, and many reenacting units are taking them off the list.

Please consider when buying a Fliegerbluse (flight blouse) or a Feldbluse (field blouse) that these uniforms should not look like they fit right. Actually, this is where ATF goes wrong. They design it more as a US style where the flaps go down to the folds of the butt, and the sleeves to the midpoint of the hand.

The uniform should look too short. This is normal. The sleeves should end around the wrist approximately, and the tunic bottom should be at the top of the butt. Pants were worn around the umbilicus (belly button). The rationale behind this was all in optical illusions. Hitler wanted "super soldiers", and thus the uniform was tailored to make it appear as if the Germans could not make big enough uniforms for their boys. Furthermore, the Germans were the first to create a uniform and did surveys to determine the "sex appeal" of the uniform. It was the first time that this had been taken care of.

If there is an interest, I can type out a listing of some of the cultural things I remember, and I can also give you some great pointers for anyone who wants to do Fallschirmjäger as well, as that has been my primary work for a few years as well.
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Post by unionman » Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:46 am

ATF jackets can be okay with some alterations from a tailor. I personally love my Lost Battalions coat for the reasons Chaser mentions, but not everybody wants to drop $300 on a jacket. Some fairly simple alterations can make an ATF coat good to go. I also think one shouldn't get too dogmatic about the fit of a German coat. One sees many variations in the length of the skirt, sleeves, etc in wartime photographs. With late war coats in particular ("M43") one sees a lot more loose fitting, lower hanging cuts. The strict tailoring of the uniforms appears to have gotten a bit more relaxed in the final 1-2 years of the war.

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Post by Wolfwood » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:58 am

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Post by GU3pzg » Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:29 pm

A couple WW2 items for the crew here.

We just got back from the Battle for Migano Gap in Amsterdam NY this past weekend. This was an Italian theater event that had around 40 people in attendance.

Full AARs can be found here: http://ww2aa.proboards45.com/?board=eas ... 062&page=1

Regarding guns kit etc...

The 1st Div 3rd Regiment FJs had a number of Dboys K98s. Once their support weapons (MG-34, MG-42 and an artillery cannon) went down they were totally outgunned by the Americans who were primarily sporting TM and CYMA/Cybergun Thompsons with Highcaps. Most of the MP40s were loaned to partisans. My VSR10 conversion K98 performed very well.

Also I picked up a WE 4" GBB Luger for $130, what a great gun! I had been on the fence about GBB Airsoft guns, but for a pistol I think it's great! It also gave me a fighting chance at engaging guys at close range.

The period camping was great too, it would have been even better if we didn't have a thunderstorm roll over us at about midnight causing us to all run for cover in the woods.
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Post by GU3pzg » Mon May 18, 2009 10:11 pm

So the WW2 Section here needs some action....

AGM has released a fairly decent Stg-44. It is metal and wood and heavy as hell. Mine arrived from HK this weekend. I have not yet had a chance to shoot it, but based on the reviews around the intarwebs it looks promising.

The downside is that it comes stock with a 650rd hi-cap. Not the best for ww2, but in a pinch it can be used as an LMG for the Germans. Right now there aren't a whole lot of options in that arena other than some unreliable MG42s that are harder to find than bigfoot, and some MG34s from Viva that only made it through 1 production run, these are also rare.

Apparently AGM is making an MG42 their next WW2 airsoft product, with a PPSh to follow. We'll see what comes of that, but it is exciting for sure.

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Post by Guges Mk3 » Mon May 18, 2009 11:11 pm

I sold five of those MP44/STG44 for $150.00 each plus ship...

4 guys got what they expected from an AGM product...one guy, though I think he was a kid pretending to be 36 years old thought it was going to be absolutely perfect.

When he found that it wasn't, he wanted a full refund and for me to pay for return ship...well he dinked me for negative feedback on eBay...I wish eBay would not have disabled sellers to give negative feedback...kid was totally unreasonable and made to many assumptions.

So, if you guys want them, I can get them for you...they are not selling well from HK, the early adopters and WWII reenactors got what they wanted, they have more and they are ready to deal...sort of...
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Post by GU3pzg » Tue May 19, 2009 6:10 pm

Dang if you can get them for 150... I might have to order another :) PM Sent
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Post by GU3pzg » Sat May 23, 2009 6:37 pm

So I went out to the folks' place today and shot the STG-44 for the first time. Wow! It really puts out a rope of BBs. I don't have a chrono, so I cannot report on that aspect.

One small gripe that I've been dealing with the last week with this gun... the screws that hold the wood stock in place are too short and too narrow. I replaced them a second time today (the first ones I got were longer, but I matched the diameter with the stock screws and they ended up being too narrow again...) hopefully this new set of screws will be a better solution. I also had to put a shim in where the stock pins to the gun, there was a little wobble there. Now the entire gun feels completely rock solid.
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Post by Adric » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:38 pm

I can't believe no airsoft dealer has yet seen the huge capital they could earn by converting an M14 production line into an M1 Garand production line. It's kinda dumb :(
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Post by Moose » Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:47 am

Marushin has in the past produced an M1 Garand gas and ICS is expected to produce an M1 Garand AEG in the future.
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Post by Chadwick » Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:50 pm

Adric wrote:I can't believe no airsoft dealer has yet seen the huge capital they could earn by converting an M14 production line into an M1 Garand production line. It's kinda dumb :(
I got one, wanna buy it.
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Post by Adric » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:56 pm

Wow that was a long time ago. I'm the proud owner of a ppsh now, so I'm good
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