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Forum for those interested in accurate WWII impressions and re-enactment using Airsoft. This is not a political or historical section, discussions will be limited to the gear and guns appropriate for the era and theme based games.

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Post by Erixon » Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:23 am

A World War Two theme is something I'd (eventually) want to get involved in. I'd need the time and money to start collecting the gear. Glad to hear there's others out there who are interested as well.

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Post by Red Leader » Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:57 am

fadedcorona wrote:sweet! you guys have only made it worse for me. ha ha I want to buy a garand so badly. I've even latley been looking at garand stocks on e-bay to re-finish them. and then I can buy a used gun with a good bore and possibly not as good furniture so I could get a cheaper price.... wait....... this is an airsoft forum.... I should say instead, which is also true, ... I want a Marushin garand since they seem to be a good replica but I don't like their low gas capacity. I honestly wouldn't mind the limited shots if it wasn't for the gas capacity. :( I think I made a post a while back about the marushin M1Garand... anyways.... mmm it's a great gun.
actually it has a pritty good gas supply. but in moving the bolt and fireing a 8mm bb, i could get of somewhere between 3-5 full clips (8 rounds). but to pull this of, u have to let it cool after every shot (just like u should with all gbb's).

oh, and as far as storting a ww2 theme. it will take a lot of money, but get just what u need, yes it is impressive to carry everything they did, but that is alot of gear and some of it u wont use. just get the gear u need. but it starts as any other impression... shirt, pants, goggles, gun.
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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:30 pm

but get just what u need, yes it is impressive to carry everything they did, but that is alot of gear and some of it u wont use. just get the gear u need. but it starts as any other impression... shirt, pants, goggles, gun.
Totally, my complete impressions will be uniform, headgear, footwear, load bearing gear, holster, pouch for clips and canteen. I don't think it's all that practical to say "Hey guys, you need to spend an extra XXX amount of money on stuff that you won't use and that'll be an extra 10+ pounds of weight."

Marsden, any particular German unit you're thinking of?
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Post by Turkey_Vulture » Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:04 pm

One of you could be Sgt. Schulz. " I hear noth-ing, I see Noth-ing!" lol
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Post by Red Leader » Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:07 pm

I ALREADY DO THAT... :(
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Post by fadedcorona » Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:04 pm

how much of a delay between shots Red? do you have a Garand then? I an really curious on how the range is with hfc13a and an 8mm bb. Everyone sys that they are very delicate in terms of internals so I don't know if I should try hfc22. Luckily no every place is out of the part no.45 (which apparentally can break easily and is only 10 dollars). Hmmmmm...... I think I know what I might save up for after I get my metal body kits for my M4 and sig226. ha ha ha
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Post by Marsden Hand » Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:11 pm

Lord Ashtaroth, I was thinking along the lines of either A, german paratrooper or B, regular german army unit, not SS or anything like that.
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Post by Red Leader » Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:28 pm

fadedcorona wrote:how much of a delay between shots Red? do you have a Garand then? I an really curious on how the range is with hfc13a and an 8mm bb. Everyone sys that they are very delicate in terms of internals so I don't know if I should try hfc22. Luckily no every place is out of the part no.45 (which apparentally can break easily and is only 10 dollars). Hmmmmm...... I think I know what I might save up for after I get my metal body kits for my M4 and sig226. ha ha ha
I do not have it fixed yet. i gave up on the f'ed up screw and gave it to a friend to drill out and replace. after he does that, i will have it back to f with. as far as what i have read from the reviews, it shoots hot just on hfc134a gas. like 350 (if it fired .2g) or higher. the internals are quite strnge except part 45 seing as mine has already broke (and that is just from stripping it twice). the nice thing is is that who ever designed it knew this proble and made it easy to fix. if u carry a spare a flat head and a allen wrench (which it comes with, all required allen wrenches), u could replace it on the field. range, also so as i have read, it can out range stock aegs or even some upgraded aegs. i wont be able to try this till it gets warmer though. and the delay, i have no idea, just dont auto fire it or you'll only get the 1 clip and have to gas up.
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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:43 pm

Fallschirmjager's are pretty sweet Marsden.
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Post by Chadwick » Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:11 pm

this is the list of what I have, carry. sometimes i carry more, sometimes less
m1 helmet
m43 jacket and pants
M-1938 leggings
boots (just hiking boots since they are covered by the leggings anyways)
belt
thompson mag pouch
thompson x 4 highcaps x 1 standard
1911 x 3 mags
1911 mag pouch (holds 2)
Bolen holster
m3 trench knife in M6 scabbord or m8 scabbord depending on my mood
entrenching tool
canteen,
firstaid kit
m36 susspeneders
I have dog tags, but i dont wear them as they were my grandfathers

all you realy need is the jacket, gun, and a helmet and pants to get started.

I also have sent a pm to archangel about the possinbility of starting a WWII impressions corner
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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:10 pm

I also have sent a pm to archangel about the possinbility of starting a WWII impressions corner
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Post by Chadwick » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:07 pm

FYI, I am thinking of setting up a WWII dedicated booth, Pm me if you are interested in hangin gwith us @ the tabe WWII nuts.
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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:24 am

grr, if I was going I'd totally be there like fat on a paintballer.
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Post by K9Troop » Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:37 am

Lord Ashtaroth wrote:grr, if I was going I'd totally be there like fat on a paintballer.
Whaaaaacct! You be not coming to, you know, da' Convention of greatest pruportions???

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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:40 am

(look of shame) I.....am..a bastard man. I know


That's creepy that you know that I love Borat and I do the impression all the time. Have we ever met at an FMA event?

And I think Borat would say something like

"You not come to a uh, to soft-as-air cuntvention where we show our BB teste satchels? In Kazakhstan we have game like this only we shoot at Gypsy with real guns. We call it 'hunting'.
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Post by K9Troop » Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:44 am

Lord Ashtaroth wrote:That's creepy that you know that I love Borat and I do the impression all the time. Have we ever met at an FMA event?
And I think Borat would say something like
Nope, never met. Just a shot in the dark...
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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:52 am

But you planted the seed. Now I want to try REALLY hard to go to the Con just so we can talk about Borat.
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Post by K9Troop » Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:01 am

Lord Ashtaroth wrote:But you planted the seed. Now I want to try REALLY hard to go to the Con just so we can talk about Borat.
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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:59 pm

Have there been any WWII themed events in Minnesota recently (or ever)?
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Post by JasumX » Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:22 pm

D-day was this summer.

Edit: Don't remember if it was actually in Minnesota though... Sowhere around here at least.
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Post by DFSM » Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:44 pm

It was in Wisconsin.
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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:16 pm

Yeah, I knew of the one in Wisconsin and I was at Op: Overlord II that was outside of Fargo ND (but we were right across the river from MN so it could've, kind've was in MN as well). Were there a lot of accurate (or attempts at least) uniforms (besides Red Leader, who I know was all up in dat sh*t)?
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Post by Gingerbreadman » Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:20 pm

Chadwick was there in a good setup.

If US woodland and M-16's would have been around in the 40's, I woulda had a good setup too.....
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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:04 pm

If US woodland and M-16's would have been around in the 40's, I woulda had a good setup too.....
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Post by eliminator » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:06 pm

Hi guys,
Just thought I'd say hello from Georgia. We do some WW2 events down here. I'm glad to see you're getting an interest up there as well. I personally have an M14 and would love to get the Garand kit, but that's not in the works for at least a few months. Here some pics from our last event, the first weekend of November.
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Here's a link to some other pics from one of our players. He does great work, doesn't he?
http://brussack.smugmug.com/Sports/240925
Take care, I just joined your forum and I'm sure I'll be back soon. :)

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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:12 pm

Excellent pics. Were any of those people associated with WW2 Airsoft?
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Post by eliminator » Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:31 pm

Hi, if you're referring to http://www.worldwar2airsoft.com/, then yes that some of my teammates. I play with some guys out of Athens on Team Blackjack.

The guy on top of the tank is Fallout on our forum, and an excellent source of information.

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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:37 pm

How does this look for a 1911 holster for WWII?

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/itemfind ... og=LEG-194

I know I sold out by looking at a CTD item but I don't care. I think it looks quite nice.
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Post by Chadwick » Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:52 pm

looks good, just weather it a little. if you look @ the diferance between my and redeaders stuff, mine is actual issue, and his is new. the new looks like it was just made and hasnt seen combat, but it looks good anyhow
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Post by Miker » Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:45 pm

World war two was in the 40's this one was made in 1926.

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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:52 pm

Yes but they still used that design during the war (along with a shoulder holster).
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Post by Chadwick » Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:19 pm

no, its an excelent model for WWII re-enactment, but it might look better if it is weathered. Unless this is actualy WAS made pre war, then keep it as is beacuse of value.
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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:36 am

I'm definitely going to weather it, maybe try to darken it somehow.

I'm going for a Ranger impression for Allies though I'm getting a 1943 jacket instead of a 1941 since the '43 is more practical. I guess it'll have to be a 'late war' impression but oh well. Also my German officer boots are coming in the mail.
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Post by Chadwick » Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:44 pm

I got some good news. Archangel is going to try to make A WWII forum collum thingy.
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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:09 pm

GIVE THAT MAN A DOLLAR AND A TROPHY!
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Post by Ghostbear » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:28 pm

I built a custom PPSh from a real steel parts kit and AK47 gearbox and hopup.

All in all it isnt cheap; on the order of $1100 or so complete, but the AEG when done was nearly as solid as the real steel was. :)

And the mags were the drums and not the stick, but I remember that the guy I built it for found that the Uzi mags were a one for one fit. But, the drum is still WW2 widely used.

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Post by DFSM » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:37 pm

Oh my god, please post pictures of that if you have any. I've been thinking about doing something like that.
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Post by Risto » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:55 pm

Chadwick wrote:no, its an excelent model for WWII re-enactment, but it might look better if it is weathered. Unless this is actualy WAS made pre war, then keep it as is beacuse of value.
Or you could buy a used holster and skip the whole weathering thing.

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Post by Chadwick » Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:53 pm

cc seems over priced to me, not to mention their safety issues.
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Post by Miker » Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:57 pm

Ghost I beg you post pics!!!

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Post by dhomick » Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:03 am

YES GHOST I PLEASE POST PICS!

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Post by Ghostbear » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:07 am

They are of the technical side of things, I didnt take pics of the outside, since it didnt really document anything that was different from the real ppsh. And remember, PLEASE, this is a one off prototype so some of the aluminum may have some initial design items (like extra holes) that were changed in the final design.

Ok, here goes the build on the PPSH or (PPsH)

This is the full outside of the PPSH with the gearbox fitted.
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You can see that the wood stock is kinda beat up. But it was a real steel parts kit.

The next up is a closeup of the feed tube assembly
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Then we move to a closup of the side view of the bb feed adn gearbox fitted in the receiver.
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Next... The initial barrel fitting in the shroud, the barrel was cut back in the last design steps. Also a mock plastic barrel that mimic'd the PPSH barrel was installed as an outer barrel to make it look better...
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Then the view of the mechbox alteration to make a AK gearbox fit into a PPSH.
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Then we go to the special picture, an UPSIDE down view of the gearbox fitted into the chopped receiver of the PPSH, this shows the MASSIVE alteration that is needed to the receiver to make it accept the gearbox, there is no way after removing soooo much metal to ever get this back to a functioning PPSH, thankfully it is all inside the wood, so nobody sees it.
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That is all I have in the pics, I know that I have more, but I cant locate them, I have a pic of the inside of the drum mag modification and also the final pics with the whole thing put together. But, you can get the feel from the pics at the top what it would look like finished. Well, honestly, I have a WHOLE lot more of them but these are the main steps, anything more and it would be a build guide and then you could do it.. :D And I would rather make some money on the R&D it took to get it this far.

I also have pics of the MG34 custom build that I did. :) And I am missing pics from this build too. So, I must have a different place I put them. If I do find them later, I will add them.

So, what do you think?

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Post by DFSM » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:40 am

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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:27 am

THat's beautiful. Do you post on the WW2airsoft.com boards?
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Post by Ghostbear » Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:47 pm

Nope. Didnt figure anyone would want one of these. As it was a custom. But, where would you suggest I look? :)

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Post by Lord Ashtaroth » Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:07 am

Well you could post your work on the WW2airsoft.com forums since they're some guys doing Russian impressions and I'm sure they'd appreciate another enthusiast to swap customizing ideas with.

On another note I got my SS officer's boots today in the mail

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They're a little wrinkled and not entirely accurate but boy are they nice (I also can use them for nerdy costumes like Star Wars or DnD). The thing is I was adding up how much a 2nd Waffen SS impression and a U.S. Rangers impression and I'm definitely starting on the Rangers one, not only for cost but also since I definitely know that I'll get more use out of it. I found an authentic pistol belt online that I might get since it's kind of green right now and I could use it also for a 'Nam impression.
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