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Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by CPT. Fox » Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:04 pm

so. I wanted to get a radio that'll hold up to use, is affordable, and I also want to be able to plug a handset into it. I obviously want to be able to communicate with other people on my team. I also want something that doesn't require a liscense to operate.

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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by Rabid-Weasel » Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:23 am

You have a few options.

A saber II which is a bit larger and many ppl here in the boards run or a puxing 777. Both are good radios, the puxing is cheaper but both setups will cost around $100+.

Faust May still sell the puxing here, if not eBay has tons of stuff
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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by CPT. Fox » Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:28 am

do either of those require a permit?
Grimes: Why aren't you shooting?
Waddell: We're not being shot at yet.
Grimes: How can you tell?
Waddell: A hiss means it's close. A snap means-
[a bullet whizzes close by]
Waddell: Now they're shooting at us!
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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by Jonnyboyman » Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:09 pm

I don't think they require permits. @Rabid, how do the Saber II's run? Do you know the type of connectors it uses for PTT's?

@Fox, if you want a kosher radio for modern SOF impressions, the Saber is the way to go.

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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by CPT. Fox » Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:29 pm

I found a Puxing 777 oh Amazon for $75. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007CCNN3 ... 319&sr=8-1 is this the one?
Grimes: Why aren't you shooting?
Waddell: We're not being shot at yet.
Grimes: How can you tell?
Waddell: A hiss means it's close. A snap means-
[a bullet whizzes close by]
Waddell: Now they're shooting at us!
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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by Archer » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:07 pm

an alternative I've been recommending to people recently that also is a great option is the BAOFENG UV-5r. It can do both UHF and VHF frequencies and can be had with a large 3800mah extended battery that will last quite awhile. it also has a dual channel option that allows you to listen and talk on one channel and will chime in when someone transmits on a secondary channel. I've had good luck with them and have two myself.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121031406607?ss ... 1423.l2649

I'm going to have my laptop with me at the upcoming MAA convention and if you get one of these before then I can flash program all the usual channels into it for you.

as far as the licensing goes, TECHNICALLY you need a license to transmit on anything except the FRS frequencies @ lower than .5 watts or the MURS VHF frequencies. That being said, almost nobody bothers getting the licenses and unless you start using the radio to actively cause problems, the chance you are going to get busted for it is slim to none.
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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by Rabid-Weasel » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:51 pm

That one works, and so would archers. Both will work well. The only thing I have noticed about the puxings is that have a hard time interfacing with the sabers. They can crackle a lot saber to puxing but not in reverse. Not sure why.
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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by CPT. Fox » Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:00 pm

Would FRS allow me to communicate with most other people In bigger games?

Edit: forgot to mention, I also don't wanna have to program anything in.
Grimes: Why aren't you shooting?
Waddell: We're not being shot at yet.
Grimes: How can you tell?
Waddell: A hiss means it's close. A snap means-
[a bullet whizzes close by]
Waddell: Now they're shooting at us!
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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by Archer » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:05 pm

well any radio system you get that isn't some crappy talkabout is going to require some programming. the saber, puxing and UV-5r all require having the frequencies you want to be programmed. in a standard radio that you can buy at most stores, channels 1-14 are FRS, but most radios any more have GMRS in them as well which technically requires a license (nobody EVER gets those licenses.) these radios would also give you access to business band channels like the color coded channels.
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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by CPT. Fox » Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:08 am

Archer wrote:well any radio system you get that isn't some crappy talkabout is going to require some programming. the saber, puxing and UV-5r all require having the frequencies you want to be programmed. in a standard radio that you can buy at most stores, channels 1-14 are FRS, but most radios any more have GMRS in them as well which technically requires a license (nobody EVER gets those licenses.) these radios would also give you access to business band channels like the color coded channels.
so I'm guessing a talkabout could NOT communicate with, say, a PX-777?
Grimes: Why aren't you shooting?
Waddell: We're not being shot at yet.
Grimes: How can you tell?
Waddell: A hiss means it's close. A snap means-
[a bullet whizzes close by]
Waddell: Now they're shooting at us!
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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by Archer » Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:33 am

they can... if you program the radio to use the standard FRS/GMRS frequencies that a talkabout uses.
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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by CPT. Fox » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:30 am

And I'm guessing other people don't normally use those channels for airsoft?
Grimes: Why aren't you shooting?
Waddell: We're not being shot at yet.
Grimes: How can you tell?
Waddell: A hiss means it's close. A snap means-
[a bullet whizzes close by]
Waddell: Now they're shooting at us!
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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by Archer » Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:11 pm

Yes, most people do because your average player only has access to those channels. just trust us when we say that a programmable UHF radio like the Puxing 777+, Baofeng UV-5R, or ever the sabers and other high end radios are a very good choice because they have more transmitting power, are more durable, and since they are programmable, they are easier to adjust to various uses by having more channels. finding someone to program the radio for you is very easy to do, especially with this community.
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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by Touchette » Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:22 pm

Cpt. Fox, what's your budget? When I say budget, I mean for everything, including but not limited to the radio, batteries, antenna(s), charger, headset/speaker-mic/whatever, ptt , etc.

Your budget will determine what my recommendation would be. I say that because if you're budget is limitless, I'd say go over to TEA Headsets and splurge. If your budget is in the few hundred dollar range, go for something like the Motorola Saber, Motorola MTS2000, Icom F4s, etc., and then use real PTT's and headsets or modified repro ones. If your budget is closer to, say, $100 for everything, then pick up a Chinese radio (like the Puxing or the Baofeng) and use knockoff PTT's and headsets. If your budget is $30, get something equivalent to the Motorola Talkabout, skip a headset, and save for a nicer setup.

I personally use a MTS2000 with a variety of headsets, including a simple speaker-mic & ear tube, MSA Sordins w/ a Nexus PTT, or Nacre Quietpro's.

As a newer player, on what I perceive to be more of a budget than I probably was, I would suggest you go the Puxing/Baofeng route and then build into a higher end system.

Edit: As has kinda been mentioned, make sure that whatever radio you get is UHF and includes 460-470mhz in its frequency range.
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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by CPT. Fox » Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:57 pm

okay, I guess I'll go with the Saber. just gotta wait until I get a few more things for my BHD impression until I can save up for it.
Grimes: Why aren't you shooting?
Waddell: We're not being shot at yet.
Grimes: How can you tell?
Waddell: A hiss means it's close. A snap means-
[a bullet whizzes close by]
Waddell: Now they're shooting at us!
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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by Touchette » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:35 pm

CPT. Fox wrote:okay, I guess I'll go with the Saber. just gotta wait until I get a few more things for my BHD impression until I can save up for it.
Sabers are good radio's and many of the more veteran guys run them, that being said, they run a unique connector that you'll most likely need to get custom PTT's made for (or use a speaker mic or get lucky and find someone unloading one that fits the Saber). They will also need to be programmed by someone with both the knowledge and equipment to do so, though the same can be said for most of the western commercial grade radios.

Edit: The connector is actually one of the reasons I chose the MTS2000 over the Saber, the Jedi-series radios (MTS2000, HT1000, etc.) run the same connector as the more modern XTS-series and it is generally easier to find accessories with the correct connector. Again, just my opinion, take it for what you will.
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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by Jonnyboyman » Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:15 pm

What connectors do the MTS2000's use?

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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by CPT. Fox » Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:22 pm

I was hoping to hook up a handset to it. (like the ones you see cops wearing connected to their radios, also Blackhawk Down)
Grimes: Why aren't you shooting?
Waddell: We're not being shot at yet.
Grimes: How can you tell?
Waddell: A hiss means it's close. A snap means-
[a bullet whizzes close by]
Waddell: Now they're shooting at us!
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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by Touchette » Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:46 pm

Jonnyboyman wrote:What connectors do the MTS2000's use?
Here's a link to some information on the Motorola Jedi-series radios: Linky.

This is essentially what the connector looks like:

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CPT. Fox wrote:I was hoping to hook up a handset to it. (like the ones you see cops wearing connected to their radios, also Blackhawk Down)
Speaker-mic are readily available for pretty much any radio configuration out there, including the Sabers.
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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by CPT. Fox » Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:27 pm

okay good. how much do those cost?
Grimes: Why aren't you shooting?
Waddell: We're not being shot at yet.
Grimes: How can you tell?
Waddell: A hiss means it's close. A snap means-
[a bullet whizzes close by]
Waddell: Now they're shooting at us!
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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by Touchette » Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:44 pm

Price can very depending on where you buy it, it's condition, and the manufacturer, eBay will give you an idea of the range:

- Saber Speaker-Mic's
- Jedi-series Speaker-Mic's
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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by CPT. Fox » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:28 pm

Great. So where would I go to get the channels programmed in?
Grimes: Why aren't you shooting?
Waddell: We're not being shot at yet.
Grimes: How can you tell?
Waddell: A hiss means it's close. A snap means-
[a bullet whizzes close by]
Waddell: Now they're shooting at us!
-Blackhawk Down

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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by Jonnyboyman » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:01 am

Is it possible to get a U94 for the Motorola Saber? I saw some on Ebay, but can repro U94's work with the Saber radios?

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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by Touchette » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:51 am

Fox-

If you get a Puxing or a Baofeng, it can be done manually on the radio, or there are a handful of guys on the forums who have the capabilities to program them.

If you're going to go with a Saber or Jedi-series radio (MTS2000, HT1000, etc.), you're probably going to have to have a radio tech program it. That said, not all radio tech's will program commercial radios for people without an amateur HAM radio operator's license. Lucky for you, we do have someone on these boards who is willing and able to program Saber's and Jedi-series radios, shoot a PM to Downtown and see what he might have available for sale or to get a quote to program a radio you buy somewhere else. If you do buy a radio somewhere else, it's worth your time to at least ask if the seller will program the radio as part of the sale.

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The Nexus U94 PTT can be used with pretty much any radio, it just needs to have the correct connector that works with the specific radio you want it to work with. I don't have any experience with the repro stuff and commercial radios, so I'm not sure if a repro PTT would work without modification to the PTT and same goes for a headset.
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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by acanais49 » Thu May 11, 2017 2:55 am

Rabid-Weasel wrote:You have a few options.

A saber II which is a bit larger and many ppl here in the boards run or a puxing 777 assurances deces. Both are good radios, the puxing is cheaper but both setups will cost around $100+.

Faust May still sell the puxing here, if not eBay has tons of stuff
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=33707
Thank you very much for these tips. It's really cool to have thought about sharing

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Re: Best Radio for Airsoft?

Post by Archer » Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:22 am

acanais49 wrote:
Thu May 11, 2017 2:55 am
Rabid-Weasel wrote:You have a few options.

A saber II which is a bit larger and many ppl here in the boards run or a puxing 777 assurances deces. Both are good radios, the puxing is cheaper but both setups will cost around $100+.

Faust May still sell the puxing here, if not eBay has tons of stuff
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=33707
Thank you very much for these tips. It's really cool to have thought about sharing
Be sure to check dates on threads. This one is about 3 years old, and some of the relavence is gone.

The vast manjority of players looking for budget radios have switched to the Baofeng UV line of radios. they usually run around $40-50 and have full UHF and VHF capability. they just require programming, which I usually offer as a free service at the MAA airsoft convention, or to those who make arrangements with me to meet up at a field.
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