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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Magkill » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:16 pm

How could I tell?
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Guges Mk3 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:21 pm

When you are at the Hobbyking site...put the pointer on the Global Warehouse and viola > US/Canada Options available.

Or when you select an item...you can pick which warehouse it comes from.
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Magkill » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:07 pm

I didn't pick one... So what's the default?
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Post by Guges Mk3 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:25 pm

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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Magkill » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:01 pm

So is that the store closest to me? How long will it take then?
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Post by Guges Mk3 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:46 pm

No...that is the location that is set as default.

You may get your goods in about 10 days.
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Magkill » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:54 am

What will the rate of fire be with a 7.4v if it shoots 22 rps with a 9.6?
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Post by Guges Mk3 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:27 pm

That depends.

Are you shooting a half charged 7.4V or a fully charged one? Was the battery also High Voltage or Standard Voltage?

Was the 9.6V High Discharge capable? Was it fully charged or partially charged?

See where I am going here? Your question is far too vague for an accurate answer.

I can say with accuracy of per second 18bbs, +/- up to 9 bbs
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Magkill » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:24 pm

Both 7/8 ths charged cause it loses power over time in the gun case when going to an event. The battery is an intellect 9.6 1600 mah with the thicker wiring that all of them come with standard. Do lipos do the same thing as nimhs when they die? So do lipos just drop in power like nimhs? Does a 7.4v lipo 25c ~ 50c make the gun shoot faster than a 9.6v nimh intellect?
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Guges Mk3 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:56 pm

Lipo do not self discharge like a NIMH and definitely not like a IB 1600

You will have slightly faster ROF from the LIPO, compared to the IB1600.
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Post by Jonnyboyman » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:48 pm

So, after each use of lipo... shouldd it be discharged?

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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by neoM4tech » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:45 pm

discharging a lipo is not needed, and will kill it if you discharge it too far. To be safe you should always use a low voltage alarm or cut off.

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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Magkill » Fri Dec 13, 2013 9:26 am

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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Guges Mk3 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:56 pm

That is a 5S unit...kinda big for your needs. Find a 3S or small unit.

The last airsoft pack I discharged was in 2002. No modern battery for airsoft ever needs to be discharged. If you read somewhere it does need to be discharged. I would highly question the info you are getting.
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Magkill » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:47 pm

It's not a 5s unit it's 2s-4s idk where you are getting the info on it being for 5s.
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Post by Guges Mk3 » Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:19 pm

I counted the tines and I miscounted. Still to wide...no need for a 4S Unit.
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Magkill » Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:01 pm

How do I power the lipo charger? All it comes with is two alligator clamps to connect to the source of power. Should I make a wall output out of old chargers that has an out put that is need to power it?
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Shaggy1 » Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:46 pm

Well if it's a dc only charger, you'll need a power supply or a car battery, or look for an ac/dc charger.

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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Magkill » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:23 pm

I Found two 9v out put charges and wired them together. Would that be fine or could it be bad for the charger?
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Guges Mk3 » Sun Dec 15, 2013 10:45 am

Mag...stop...before you blow the charger.

You need to slow down and read the manual.

It has to be between 12-16V with a 1AMP Minimum output.

I have rigged out laptop power suppliers and have built reducers to laptop PSU's that have too much voltage.

Personally, I have just cut off the two A clips on most chargers and rigged up an QD connector.
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Magkill » Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:31 am

Well I could have done that but I don't want to cause a problem where their isn't one, so I just got a wall charger for it and a car charger for it as well. Lol I'm just going to be safe, I don't want to break something.

I got to say, that packaging for the IMAX charger is the best that it can be. Is the charger considered really high quality?
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Magkill » Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:51 am

So how can I tell if a Vfc is an economy version besides the fact that they don't have self shim gears?
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Guges Mk3 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:16 pm

Without opening them up...you can't...same with G&P.

But the price is a big factor...unless someone is conning you.

Airsoft is not cut and dried in the US.

In Asia...a lot easier to discern.
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Magkill » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:38 am

How should I lower my fps? I was thinking of pulling the trigger just enough to make the guns spring get 3/4ths pulled back in the gun making it have less fps. Is that a good idea or would that break the gun? I've heard that's a bad idea on the national forum but many other people said to do it.
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Guges Mk3 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:43 am

You don't pull the trigger back...just fire it in FA and have it pre-cycle to a compressed state to stress the spring to lower it's operational quality.

As for working in lowering your FPS...you gonna hear it...."It Depends."

If you have a cheap Airsoft spring you will notice a drop in 1 week...if you have a good spring you WILL NOT notice a drop unless you leave the spring compressed for 1 year.

Remember in Airsoft things are systems and not a video game where part X and task Y results in outcome B3.

It all varies on the components and how they all interact together.
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Magkill » Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:10 am

I need help once again. :(

I'm looking in to playing indoor, I don't have any guns that shoot below 350 fps. I have an ak that shoots 370 and an m4 that shoots 369 so neither can be obviously used in indoor play. I was thinking of either down grading one of the two but I dont want to down grade my m4 because it has a nice fps and rof and I want to keep it that way, and my ak is my back up so I don't want to mod it in any way. I was thinking of getting a second gearbox for my m4 that is rear wired, connected to deans, and is below 350 fps. I was thinking of a g&p gearbox but i don't know if any are below 350 or not. The real concern is the fact that my m4 has a bucking/packaging that is much harder than the stock one so I dont know if that will make the gun shoot to high even with the down graded gearbox. So that makes me wonder... What should I do?

Guges, yes g&p even though they scare me I am considering to get a gearbox by them. So yes guges if you do have a g&p gearbox rear wired to deans and that shoots below 350 fps I will buy it from you... Or consider it, idk yet.

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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Guges Mk3 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:15 pm

Why don't you chrono your AEG at the field first. Who knows...your AEG may come in lower than you expect.
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Post by IsparkTheLa » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:30 pm

Sounds like a good opportunity to practice tuning a gearbox! There recently was a guy selling complete boxes on ebay for less then $20. Perfect for learning. I don't see them now, but these aren't bad:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/G-G-Version-2-G ... 2c7b528e23

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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by Magkill » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:03 pm

Guges Mk3 wrote:Why don't you chrono your AEG at the field first. Who knows...your AEG may come in lower than you expect.
i chromo my guns at the field every time i play and last time i checked both of my guns were shooting at around 370. Ill check again the next time i go to a field.
IsparkTheLa wrote:Sounds like a good opportunity to practice tuning a gearbox! There recently was a guy selling complete boxes on ebay for less then $20. Perfect for learning. I don't see them now, but these aren't bad:

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that sounds like a really good idea. I'm looking in to getting one with out a motor though cause i already have the tienly high torque motor and that thing can pull just about any thing, or so I've heard. ill probably get one soon.
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Post by Guges Mk3 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:17 am

What I am trying to convey is that Airsoft Chrono's are know to be vastly inaccurate. They don't have to be calibrated.

I know of a situation where a certain G&P shot 394fps with .20g bbs with hop off. This was tested on a Light Chrono.

When this same aeg was taken to a field it was chrono'd at 449fps with a cheap airsoft chrono.

This is pretty much impossible...with a stock factory spring.

So, chrono at the field you want to play at and see if your within limits already.
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by DeltaOP4 » Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:43 pm

Ok got a really general question. I replaced the standard barrel in my echo 1 xcr-l to a madbull 6.03 black python tbb. On average what is the increase in fps after installing a tbb? I know there are a lot of factors to take into account regarding air seals and such. I just want to make sure I will stay within 400 fps so I can use the gun. It was shooting around 380 before I believe.

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Post by neoM4tech » Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:49 am

most i have ever seen a tbb boost fps is around 10, you are fine.

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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by DeltaOP4 » Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:21 am

Ok good. I dont really want to be right up at the 400 mark just for the time I accidentally shoot someone a bit too close.

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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by DeltaOP4 » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:40 pm

So, i'm planning on getting a JBU high speed motor for my Echo 1 XCR and had a question about the motor and what voltage battery would be suggested. I can only use a 7.4v buffer tube LiPo because i have a Magpul stock on it and the gun is wired to the rear. Is a 7.4v suitable with this moto or would you guys reccomend a higher voltage? I'm not big on crazy high ROFs but right now it is admittedly slower than i would like. Maybe this is a total NOOB question but i have never done this before so i'm not entirely sure if this would work. The battery is a 20C with 1200 mah.

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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by neoM4tech » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:41 pm

I recommend not going high speed motor, and instead using a high torque and dropping in high speed gears. For instance 13:1s and a high torque motor work beautifully in my DMR to give quick trigger response.

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Post by Tank » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:55 pm

If you're running an M110 or lighter spring then a high speed motor will work fine, with a 7.4 Li-PO.
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by DeltaOP4 » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:16 pm

neoM4tech wrote:I recommend not going high speed motor, and instead using a high torque and dropping in high speed gears. For instance 13:1s and a high torque motor work beautifully in my DMR to give quick trigger response.
Well I would really rather not open up the gearbox until something breaks so I cant kick myself over ruining something.
Tank wrote:If you're running an M110 or lighter spring then a high speed motor will work fine, with a 7.4 Li-PO.
Yup its got an M110 in it. Thanks.

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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by DeltaOP4 » Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:52 pm

What is typically better in regards to a hop up, a metal hop or polycarb one? I heard that the polycarb hop ups generally provide a better seal. Is this true? If thats false would the madbull 3-1 metal hop up be a good choice? I am just going to stick with a standard style hop up.

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Post by Guges Mk3 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:50 am

The material that the hop-up is made of makes no difference.

Like a car and how it handles. Does it matter if your wheels are steel or alloy? Nope. Its the rubber and how it's set up.

As for which is better...it depends. Nothing is plug and play, where part A3 give you improvement factor 92. It is all entirely subjective to your AEG as a system. Put the wrong part in and your system will tank. Balance everything right...it will work well.
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by mhofstad » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:57 am

Are you able to r-hop proprietary hop ups like ICS and apex?

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Post by Guges Mk3 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:03 pm

R-Hop can be applied to anything...just being able to afford it is another issue.
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by DeltaOP4 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:37 pm

Ok. I will look up the R hop and see if its a viable option for me. For regular buckings and such though is the madbull fishbone spacer actually effective or is it just a gimmick?
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Post by Guges Mk3 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:29 pm

It is more gimmick than real "physics" based hop-up technology.
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Re: One question, one answer (tech questions only)

Post by DeltaOP4 » Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:56 pm

Ok thanks. Now to find a good hop up bucking...

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