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ICS M1 Garand

Post by Sharpshot » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:49 pm

Preorder has gone up, for those who care: http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.p ... s_id=12249

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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Slipmad » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:54 pm

i guess having an M1 Garand AEG is cool and all, but $400? it would probably be cheaper to mod up an M14. if i was going to buy an airsoft M1 garand i would just save up more money and get the Marushin one.

also that mag looks terribly cheap,i see that splitting or breaking fast
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by McClane » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:17 pm

$400 is too expensive? Kids these days...
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Slipmad » Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:10 pm

$400 is inexpensive to you?
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Slipmad » Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:11 pm

and too add to my previous post, i am pretty sure a lot of adults would consider $400 expensive..
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by McClane » Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:19 pm

It's because you live in the age of Chinese clones. Before that market exploded we gladly paid $400 and sometimes more for our AEG's.
When the G&G M14 came out it was about $450 retail.


I will admit that $400 might be a bit steep for an ICS product.
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by SeawolfIV » Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:22 pm

Actually, it probably wouldn't be cheaper to mod an M14, if you were dedicated. It's all in the intricate parts. And $400 is expensive when you don't have a paycheck.
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Slipmad » Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:24 pm

Even if i did live in the generation you did i would have still considered that expensive. i do love Airsoft but i would not spend $400 on a stock Airsoft gun
I'm glad that we have Airsoft guns around the $200 range now, i can get a clone gun and put maybe another $75 or $100 into it and make it up to pare with a $400 gun. i would personally not put $400 of my money into a stock Airsoft gun.
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Slipmad » Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:26 pm

and of course a moded M14 would not be perfect, i do not see anyone putting too much into an M14 to mod it up to look like an M1 garand, if they were gonna put loads of money into one they might as well just buy this ICS one
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by McClane » Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:28 pm

I'd not drop $400 on a stock AK, M4, G36 ect. But a unique non mainstream gun? Hell yeah I would.
Paid at least that for my RS SVD and no $200 AEG no matter how much you tweak it will ever be on par.
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Slipmad » Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:34 pm

well i guess anyone is welcome to spend $400 on a gun, i myself personally would not, and my upgraded AEGs perform just fine so i am happy with them
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Guges Mk3 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:56 am

You can upgrade the internals of a ACM cheaply, but you cannot upgrade the Externals cheaply. No 200.00 clone will ever have the nice diecasted externals of a G&P.
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Rekkon » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:36 am

Slipmad wrote:i guess having an M1 Garand AEG is cool and all, but $400? it would probably be cheaper to mod up an M14. if i was going to buy an airsoft M1 garand i would just save up more money and get the Marushin one.
So you would rather pay more for a tempermental and less effective rifle that deliberately tries to eject its clips underfoot?
Slipmad wrote:also that mag looks terribly cheap,i see that splitting or breaking fast
Where can I get this app that tells plastic quality from an internet photo?

WWII airsofters are jumping for joy over this thing. They are plenty happy to have a skirmishable AEG Garand at all, and once you get to less represented weapons, the price goes up.
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Sharpshot » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:01 pm

Guys, play nice :wink: . To each their own. Some guys like paying more upfront so that they will have a gun that will hopefully last longer stock. Some like to pay less upfront, and then upgrade as they see fit. I personally tend to be on the side of pay more upfront. There are a lot of situations where the cheaper variety of a gun will have a lot more issue than the more expensive variety. A great example of this is the S&T Tavors vs the Ares Tavor. Both look correct, but, the Ares feels much stronger. Another example is the New Umarex UMP Vs the G&G UMG. Both are the same gun, but, G&G does it better. As a general rule of thumb, if a company sells their weapon for a higher price, then they can afford to make it a better quality weapon. IS this always true? No. Some companies just like to rip people off. But, with companies like G&G, ICS, KWA, TM, G&P, and etc, this tends to hold true :D

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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Rekkon » Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:43 pm

I was playing nice. The Marushins do not have a good reputation among WWII airsofters. Externally they are great, but performance is fiddly, and there is a particular part that tends to break. The clips hold fewer rounds, and while they do get ejected, the plastic ones do not "ping!" and have a tendancy to get stepped on. Until G&G's version hits the market, there is no other AEG Garand available, so you can pay what they ask or do without. $400 is not unreasonable for a large, full metal and wood, new-design weapon.
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Miker » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:02 pm

$400 is reasonable for such a "rare" model that is also all wood and metal.

It is hard to remember the days of having to spend 300$ for our plastic bodied AEGs

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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Slipmad » Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:46 pm

Rekkon wrote:Where can I get this app that tells plastic quality from an internet photo?
This brand new invention called the iBall, it lets you look at stuff
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by J-Muss » Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:52 pm

Uhh guys don't forget... the 20.5% off works on pre-orders. So 320$ for this right now, just sayin'.
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by SeawolfIV » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:50 pm

Sharpshot wrote: To each their own.
To each his or her own.

Yeah, I just learned that. English is bull.
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Rekkon » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:04 am

SeawolfIV wrote:
Sharpshot wrote: To each their own.
To each his or her own.

Yeah, I just learned that. English is bull.
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Moose » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:12 am

Rekon,
Now who were these three blind dudes?
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Guges Mk3 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:01 am

Got 3 in.

The pre-orders backed out of course, surprise, surprise.

"I can get it from ASGI for 20% off..." yeah well they don't have it yet...it's on pre-order.

Anyways...anyone want one.
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Terd Ferguson » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:35 pm

SeawolfIV wrote:
Sharpshot wrote: To each their own.
To each his or her own.

Yeah, I just learned that. English is bull.
I thought that when used as an idiomatic expression the "his" is fine. In other cases "his or her" could also work.

So Guges, you offering the 20% off as well, right?
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Guges Mk3 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:40 am

Sure thing, let me mark it up 25%
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

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Guges Mk3 wrote:Sure thing, let me mark it up 25%
For him, 50% :wink: :lol:

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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Rekkon » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:58 pm

Guges Mk3 wrote:Got 3 in.

The pre-orders backed out of course, surprise, surprise.

"I can get it from ASGI for 20% off..." yeah well they don't have it yet...it's on pre-order.

Anyways...anyone want one.
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Tank » Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:27 pm

Rekkon wrote:
Guges Mk3 wrote:Got 3 in.

The pre-orders backed out of course, surprise, surprise.

"I can get it from ASGI for 20% off..." yeah well they don't have it yet...it's on pre-order.

Anyways...anyone want one.
So this means you will get my precious before Airsoft GI does, quiaff?

Well, he has them NOW and GI doesn't so....
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Rekkon » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:56 pm

Clearly "my precious" != "ICS M1 Garand".
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Guges Mk3 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:47 pm

I have three of your precious'...right here!

Gestures! And I have spare mags. 9 spare mags in fact.
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Rekkon » Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:45 am

Bah, what part of "!=" was unclear? I meant the weapon I already have on preorder with Guges.

Besides, I am holding out for the G&G M1.
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Trippy » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:18 pm

So is there a specific historical reason why they went with oak for the hand guard and maple for the stock, or is that just to mess with the few people who would notice?
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Rekkon » Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:45 pm

From the WW2AA chatter, there are a number of small things ICS got wrong, though be it from ignorance or apathy we know not.
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Re: ICS M1 Garand

Post by Guges Mk3 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:09 am

Rekkon wrote:From the WW2AA chatter, there are a number of small things ICS got wrong, though be it from ignorance or apathy we know not.
That is a known practice by ICS. Short cuts.

Anyone remember the first ICS AK and all the external socket head screws?
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